++/-- miming hay meets Mail in IQ storm

[Bryan Burford <b.burford@xxxxxxxxx>]

From: "John Walker" Subject: Re: [b] ++ Brasseye 'tricked' 8 year olds into appearing 
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:24:50 +0100 

From: "O'Loughlin, Des (CRTLDN)" 

> That 90% bollocks looks more and more pathetic and just plain *wrong* 
> every day. And the backtracking over the use of the word "peasants" 
> has been hilarious on here. The people on this list who form their 
> half-arsed opinions of the general public by what they read in the 
> newspapers and see on TV, and then start decrying a "media-led" 
> society should fucking wise up. Surely the events of the past week 
> have illustrated just how wrong you were. 

You're blinkered idealistic view of the country is endlessly tiresome. 

Point 1: My analysis of the degree to which people in this country do not 
think for themselves is based on my experience of people in this country. 
This is of course represented in the media, but it is realised in my every 
day life. 

>Point 2: The word "peasants" was utterly relevant in the context it was
used 
>(by Nick). Large mobs of people waving banners and setting fire to things
is 
>somewhat reminiscent of large mobs of peasants waving pitchforks and
setting 
>fire to things. 

Yeah, those bloody anti-capitalists. Peasants.


>Point 3: The most popular national daily newspaper in this country is the 
>Sun. The least popular is the Independent. One is brainless trash and naked

>women. The other is a mixture of comment from all types with all bias that 
>challenges the standards. Gosh, that's strange isn't it Des? 

The Sun sells about 4m copies. Read by *maybe* 10m tops. That's 20% of the
population. 
The Independent is dreadful.


>The most popular non red-top paper is the Daily Mail. Oh wow, look at that 
>representation of society. How odd. 

Of course read by 90% of the population.

>People are lazy, selfish, and self-interested to the all-encompassing
degree 

You are Margaret Thatcher and I claim my five sneers and a CVA.

>It is haywire mimetic. 

"English motherfucker, do you speak it?"

>Which is easier: Research into the actions of Rupert 
>Murdoch, his business practises, and his discrepancies before deciding to 
>give him your money, or getting Sky because your neighbour has? Which is 
>easier: Gawd blessing the Queen Mother, or investigating her history to
find 
>out what kind of person she is? Which is easier: Reacting to Brass Eye in 
>the way in which your newspaper has told you to, or watching the programme 
>and forming your own opinions? 

And Des's point is, which are people actually doing? It seems the majority
of people speaking out are doing the latter.

>As a species we mimetically follow our peers - it is all but impossible not

>to. The difference is that about 1/10 people are aware that they are doing 
>it. 


 God's way of forcing BEMLI back on topic..


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