Re: [b] -- Thanks a lot

[Tom <anne.ting@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

johnw@xxxxxxxxx:

>But it would be a pathetic lie if I had to pretend that I thought she was
the 
>bestest woman ever, because a more civilised society would *demand* that I 
>did.

I appreciate that perhaps you're just taking the contrary stance to Mr
Mailer, but surely there's a 'third way'(copyright T.Blair)? 

"More Civilised Societies"(tm) *seem* to have a greater awareness of and
appreciation for their family (immediate and extended). But that's not to
say they automatically accept all such members regardless. If Uncle Lenny
creeps upstairs with Little Natasha, Uncle Lenny is hardly likely to be
invited round for supper next weekend. But if Uncle Len is just a bit of a
bore, or has outdated ideals, or smells of piss he's unlikely to be
castigated.

I don't see much difference between how your family reacted to Granny's
demise, compared to a family from a "More Civilised Society"(tm). Although
you didn't much like her, you still accepted that she was 'family' and
stood by her when she needed you most.

>That you immediately jump to an easy jibe about the Bible  demonstrates you 
>unwillingness to consider the point that in a reasonable society, one is 
>entitled to have opinions and feelings about people based on what they are 
>like. Try harder.

Love/fondness/appreciation/acceptance of one's family can hardly be
described as a 'bad thing'? Surely it's a part of the Christian rhetoric?

 - I don't mean to bash you over the head with Christianity, as I'm not
sure it really has any place in this argument, other than MCS's tend to
have a stronger link to religion also.

Of course all of this is just sweeping generalisations. So you're wrong.
I'm wrong. We all scream for ice.cream.org

Cheers,
Tom.

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